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To: python-list
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Subject: comp.lang.python RFD again
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From: Guido.van.Rossum@cwi.nl
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I've followed the recent discussion and trimmed the blurb RFD down a bit
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(and added the word "object-oriented" to the blurb).
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I don't think it's too early to *try* to create the newsgroup --
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whether we will succeed may depend on how many Python supporters there
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are outside the mailing list.
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I'm personally not worried about moderation, and anyway I haven't
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heard from any volunteers for moderation (and I won't volunteer
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myself) so I suggest that we'll continue to ask for one unmoderated
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newsgroup.
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My next action will be to post an updated FAQ (which will hint at the
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upcoming RFD) to comp.lang.misc; then finalize the 1.0.0 release and
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put it on the ftp site. I'll also try to get it into
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comp.sources.unix or .misc. And all this before the end of January!
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--Guido van Rossum, CWI, Amsterdam <Guido.van.Rossum@cwi.nl>
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URL: <http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Guido.van.Rossum.html>
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======================================================================
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These are the steps required (in case you don't know about the
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newsgroup creation process):
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First, we need to draw up an RFD (Request For Discussion). This is a
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document that tells what the purpose of the group is, and gives a case
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for its creation. We post this to relevant groups (comp.lang.misc,
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the mailing list, news.groups, etc.) Discussion is held on
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news.groups.
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Then, after a few weeks, we run the official CFV (Call For Votes).
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The votes are then collected over a period of weeks. We need 100 more
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yes votes than no votes, and a 2/3 majority, to get the group.
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There are some restrictions on the vote taker: [s]he cannot actively
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campaign for/against the group during the vote process. So the main
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benefit to Steve instead of me running the vote is that I will be free
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to campaign for its creation!
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The following is our current draft for the RFD.
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======================================================================
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Request For Discussion: comp.lang.python
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Purpose
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-------
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The newsgroup will be for discussion on the Python computer language.
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Possible topics include requests for information, general programming,
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development, and bug reports. The group will be unmoderated.
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What is Python?
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---------------
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Python is a relatively new very-high-level language developed in
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Amsterdam. Python is a simple, object-oriented procedural language,
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with features taken from ABC, Icon, Modula-3, and C/C++.
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Its central goal is to provide the best of both worlds: the dynamic
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nature of scripting languages like Perl/TCL/REXX, but also support for
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general programming found in the more traditional languages like Icon,
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C, Modula,...
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Python may be FTP'd from the following sites:
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ftp.cwi.nl in directory /pub/python (its "home site", also has a FAQ)
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ftp.uu.net in directory /languages/python
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gatekeeper.dec.com in directory /pub/plan/python/cwi
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Rationale
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Currently there is a mailing list with over 130 subscribers.
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The activity of this list is high, and to make handling the
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traffic more reasonable, a newsgroup is being proposed. We
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also feel that comp.lang.misc would not be a suitable forum
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for this volume of discussion on a particular language.
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Charter
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Comp.lang.python is an unmoderated newsgroup which will serve
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as a forum for discussing the Python computer language. The
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group will serve both those who just program in Python and
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those who work on developing the language. Topics that
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may be discussed include:
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- announcements of new versions of the language and
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applications written in Python.
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- discussion on the internals of the Python language.
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- general information about the language.
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- discussion on programming in Python.
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Discussion
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Any objections to this RFD will be considered and, if determined
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to be appropriate, will be incorporated. The discussion period
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will be for a period of 21 days after which the first CFV will be
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issued.
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