diff --git a/Lib/idlelib/CodeContext.py b/Lib/idlelib/CodeContext.py
index 44783b69d0b..7d25adaa4ce 100644
--- a/Lib/idlelib/CodeContext.py
+++ b/Lib/idlelib/CodeContext.py
@@ -57,18 +57,18 @@ class CodeContext:
             # Calculate the border width and horizontal padding required to
             # align the context with the text in the main Text widget.
             #
-            # All values are passed through int(str(<value>)), since some
+            # All values are passed through getint(), since some
             # values may be pixel objects, which can't simply be added to ints.
             widgets = self.editwin.text, self.editwin.text_frame
             # Calculate the required vertical padding
             padx = 0
             for widget in widgets:
-                padx += int(str( widget.pack_info()['padx'] ))
-                padx += int(str( widget.cget('padx') ))
+                padx += widget.tk.getint(widget.pack_info()['padx'])
+                padx += widget.tk.getint(widget.cget('padx'))
             # Calculate the required border width
             border = 0
             for widget in widgets:
-                border += int(str( widget.cget('border') ))
+                border += widget.tk.getint(widget.cget('border'))
             self.label = tkinter.Label(self.editwin.top,
                                        text="\n" * (self.context_depth - 1),
                                        anchor=W, justify=LEFT,
diff --git a/Lib/test/test_tcl.py b/Lib/test/test_tcl.py
index add0871fa48..b612517941f 100644
--- a/Lib/test/test_tcl.py
+++ b/Lib/test/test_tcl.py
@@ -163,10 +163,10 @@ class TclTest(unittest.TestCase):
         self.assertEqual(tcl.getdouble(' 42 '), 42.0)
         self.assertEqual(tcl.getdouble(' 42.5 '), 42.5)
         self.assertEqual(tcl.getdouble(42.5), 42.5)
+        self.assertEqual(tcl.getdouble(42), 42.0)
         self.assertRaises(TypeError, tcl.getdouble)
         self.assertRaises(TypeError, tcl.getdouble, '42.5', '10')
         self.assertRaises(TypeError, tcl.getdouble, b'42.5')
-        self.assertRaises(TypeError, tcl.getdouble, 42)
         self.assertRaises(TclError, tcl.getdouble, 'a')
         self.assertRaises((TypeError, ValueError, TclError),
                           tcl.getdouble, '42.5\0')
diff --git a/Lib/tkinter/__init__.py b/Lib/tkinter/__init__.py
index c57ebd275de..196809b7b71 100644
--- a/Lib/tkinter/__init__.py
+++ b/Lib/tkinter/__init__.py
@@ -355,7 +355,7 @@ class IntVar(Variable):
 
     def get(self):
         """Return the value of the variable as an integer."""
-        return getint(self._tk.globalgetvar(self._name))
+        return self._tk.getint(self._tk.globalgetvar(self._name))
 
 class DoubleVar(Variable):
     """Value holder for float variables."""
@@ -374,7 +374,7 @@ class DoubleVar(Variable):
 
     def get(self):
         """Return the value of the variable as a float."""
-        return getdouble(self._tk.globalgetvar(self._name))
+        return self._tk.getdouble(self._tk.globalgetvar(self._name))
 
 class BooleanVar(Variable):
     """Value holder for boolean variables."""
@@ -505,14 +505,26 @@ class Misc:
     def getvar(self, name='PY_VAR'):
         """Return value of Tcl variable NAME."""
         return self.tk.getvar(name)
-    getint = int
-    getdouble = float
+
+    def getint(self, s):
+        try:
+            return self.tk.getint(s)
+        except TclError as exc:
+            raise ValueError(str(exc))
+
+    def getdouble(self, s):
+        try:
+            return self.tk.getdouble(s)
+        except TclError as exc:
+            raise ValueError(str(exc))
+
     def getboolean(self, s):
         """Return a boolean value for Tcl boolean values true and false given as parameter."""
         try:
             return self.tk.getboolean(s)
         except TclError:
             raise ValueError("invalid literal for getboolean()")
+
     def focus_set(self):
         """Direct input focus to this widget.
 
@@ -778,7 +790,7 @@ class Misc:
     def winfo_atom(self, name, displayof=0):
         """Return integer which represents atom NAME."""
         args = ('winfo', 'atom') + self._displayof(displayof) + (name,)
-        return getint(self.tk.call(args))
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call(args))
     def winfo_atomname(self, id, displayof=0):
         """Return name of atom with identifier ID."""
         args = ('winfo', 'atomname') \
@@ -786,7 +798,7 @@ class Misc:
         return self.tk.call(args)
     def winfo_cells(self):
         """Return number of cells in the colormap for this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'cells', self._w))
     def winfo_children(self):
         """Return a list of all widgets which are children of this widget."""
@@ -817,22 +829,22 @@ class Misc:
         return self._nametowidget(name)
     def winfo_depth(self):
         """Return the number of bits per pixel."""
-        return getint(self.tk.call('winfo', 'depth', self._w))
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call('winfo', 'depth', self._w))
     def winfo_exists(self):
         """Return true if this widget exists."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'exists', self._w))
     def winfo_fpixels(self, number):
         """Return the number of pixels for the given distance NUMBER
         (e.g. "3c") as float."""
-        return getdouble(self.tk.call(
+        return self.tk.getdouble(self.tk.call(
             'winfo', 'fpixels', self._w, number))
     def winfo_geometry(self):
         """Return geometry string for this widget in the form "widthxheight+X+Y"."""
         return self.tk.call('winfo', 'geometry', self._w)
     def winfo_height(self):
         """Return height of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'height', self._w))
     def winfo_id(self):
         """Return identifier ID for this widget."""
@@ -844,7 +856,7 @@ class Misc:
         return self.tk.splitlist(self.tk.call(args))
     def winfo_ismapped(self):
         """Return true if this widget is mapped."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'ismapped', self._w))
     def winfo_manager(self):
         """Return the window mananger name for this widget."""
@@ -862,11 +874,11 @@ class Misc:
         return self.tk.call(args)
     def winfo_pixels(self, number):
         """Rounded integer value of winfo_fpixels."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'pixels', self._w, number))
     def winfo_pointerx(self):
         """Return the x coordinate of the pointer on the root window."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'pointerx', self._w))
     def winfo_pointerxy(self):
         """Return a tuple of x and y coordinates of the pointer on the root window."""
@@ -874,15 +886,15 @@ class Misc:
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'pointerxy', self._w))
     def winfo_pointery(self):
         """Return the y coordinate of the pointer on the root window."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'pointery', self._w))
     def winfo_reqheight(self):
         """Return requested height of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'reqheight', self._w))
     def winfo_reqwidth(self):
         """Return requested width of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'reqwidth', self._w))
     def winfo_rgb(self, color):
         """Return tuple of decimal values for red, green, blue for
@@ -892,12 +904,12 @@ class Misc:
     def winfo_rootx(self):
         """Return x coordinate of upper left corner of this widget on the
         root window."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'rootx', self._w))
     def winfo_rooty(self):
         """Return y coordinate of upper left corner of this widget on the
         root window."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'rooty', self._w))
     def winfo_screen(self):
         """Return the screen name of this widget."""
@@ -905,27 +917,27 @@ class Misc:
     def winfo_screencells(self):
         """Return the number of the cells in the colormap of the screen
         of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'screencells', self._w))
     def winfo_screendepth(self):
         """Return the number of bits per pixel of the root window of the
         screen of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'screendepth', self._w))
     def winfo_screenheight(self):
         """Return the number of pixels of the height of the screen of this widget
         in pixel."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'screenheight', self._w))
     def winfo_screenmmheight(self):
         """Return the number of pixels of the height of the screen of
         this widget in mm."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'screenmmheight', self._w))
     def winfo_screenmmwidth(self):
         """Return the number of pixels of the width of the screen of
         this widget in mm."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'screenmmwidth', self._w))
     def winfo_screenvisual(self):
         """Return one of the strings directcolor, grayscale, pseudocolor,
@@ -935,7 +947,7 @@ class Misc:
     def winfo_screenwidth(self):
         """Return the number of pixels of the width of the screen of
         this widget in pixel."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'screenwidth', self._w))
     def winfo_server(self):
         """Return information of the X-Server of the screen of this widget in
@@ -947,7 +959,7 @@ class Misc:
             'winfo', 'toplevel', self._w))
     def winfo_viewable(self):
         """Return true if the widget and all its higher ancestors are mapped."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'viewable', self._w))
     def winfo_visual(self):
         """Return one of the strings directcolor, grayscale, pseudocolor,
@@ -979,37 +991,37 @@ class Misc:
         """Return the height of the virtual root window associated with this
         widget in pixels. If there is no virtual root window return the
         height of the screen."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'vrootheight', self._w))
     def winfo_vrootwidth(self):
         """Return the width of the virtual root window associated with this
         widget in pixel. If there is no virtual root window return the
         width of the screen."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'vrootwidth', self._w))
     def winfo_vrootx(self):
         """Return the x offset of the virtual root relative to the root
         window of the screen of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'vrootx', self._w))
     def winfo_vrooty(self):
         """Return the y offset of the virtual root relative to the root
         window of the screen of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'vrooty', self._w))
     def winfo_width(self):
         """Return the width of this widget."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'width', self._w))
     def winfo_x(self):
         """Return the x coordinate of the upper left corner of this widget
         in the parent."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'x', self._w))
     def winfo_y(self):
         """Return the y coordinate of the upper left corner of this widget
         in the parent."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('winfo', 'y', self._w))
     def update(self):
         """Enter event loop until all pending events have been processed by Tcl."""
@@ -1126,11 +1138,11 @@ class Misc:
     def _getints(self, string):
         """Internal function."""
         if string:
-            return tuple(map(getint, self.tk.splitlist(string)))
+            return tuple(map(self.tk.getint, self.tk.splitlist(string)))
     def _getdoubles(self, string):
         """Internal function."""
         if string:
-            return tuple(map(getdouble, self.tk.splitlist(string)))
+            return tuple(map(self.tk.getdouble, self.tk.splitlist(string)))
     def _getboolean(self, string):
         """Internal function."""
         if string:
@@ -1229,12 +1241,12 @@ class Misc:
         if len(args) != len(self._subst_format): return args
         getboolean = self.tk.getboolean
 
-        getint = int
+        getint = self.tk.getint
         def getint_event(s):
             """Tk changed behavior in 8.4.2, returning "??" rather more often."""
             try:
-                return int(s)
-            except ValueError:
+                return getint(s)
+            except (ValueError, TclError):
                 return s
 
         nsign, b, f, h, k, s, t, w, x, y, A, E, K, N, W, T, X, Y, D = args
@@ -1278,7 +1290,7 @@ class Misc:
         e.y_root = getint_event(Y)
         try:
             e.delta = getint(D)
-        except ValueError:
+        except (ValueError, TclError):
             e.delta = 0
         return (e,)
     def _report_exception(self):
@@ -1403,10 +1415,10 @@ class Misc:
                 if not svalue:
                     return None
                 elif '.' in svalue:
-                    return getdouble(svalue)
+                    return self.tk.getdouble(svalue)
                 else:
-                    return getint(svalue)
-            except ValueError:
+                    return self.tk.getint(svalue)
+            except (ValueError, TclError):
                 pass
         return value
 
@@ -2284,17 +2296,17 @@ class Canvas(Widget, XView, YView):
     def canvasx(self, screenx, gridspacing=None):
         """Return the canvas x coordinate of pixel position SCREENX rounded
         to nearest multiple of GRIDSPACING units."""
-        return getdouble(self.tk.call(
+        return self.tk.getdouble(self.tk.call(
             self._w, 'canvasx', screenx, gridspacing))
     def canvasy(self, screeny, gridspacing=None):
         """Return the canvas y coordinate of pixel position SCREENY rounded
         to nearest multiple of GRIDSPACING units."""
-        return getdouble(self.tk.call(
+        return self.tk.getdouble(self.tk.call(
             self._w, 'canvasy', screeny, gridspacing))
     def coords(self, *args):
         """Return a list of coordinates for the item given in ARGS."""
         # XXX Should use _flatten on args
-        return [getdouble(x) for x in
+        return [self.tk.getdouble(x) for x in
                            self.tk.splitlist(
                    self.tk.call((self._w, 'coords') + args))]
     def _create(self, itemType, args, kw): # Args: (val, val, ..., cnf={})
@@ -2305,7 +2317,7 @@ class Canvas(Widget, XView, YView):
             args = args[:-1]
         else:
             cnf = {}
-        return getint(self.tk.call(
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call(
             self._w, 'create', itemType,
             *(args + self._options(cnf, kw))))
     def create_arc(self, *args, **kw):
@@ -2389,7 +2401,7 @@ class Canvas(Widget, XView, YView):
         self.tk.call((self._w, 'icursor') + args)
     def index(self, *args):
         """Return position of cursor as integer in item specified in ARGS."""
-        return getint(self.tk.call((self._w, 'index') + args))
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call((self._w, 'index') + args))
     def insert(self, *args):
         """Insert TEXT in item TAGORID at position POS. ARGS must
         be TAGORID POS TEXT."""
@@ -2515,7 +2527,7 @@ class Entry(Widget, XView):
         self.tk.call(self._w, 'icursor', index)
     def index(self, index):
         """Return position of cursor."""
-        return getint(self.tk.call(
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call(
             self._w, 'index', index))
     def insert(self, index, string):
         """Insert STRING at INDEX."""
@@ -2630,13 +2642,13 @@ class Listbox(Widget, XView, YView):
         """Return index of item identified with INDEX."""
         i = self.tk.call(self._w, 'index', index)
         if i == 'none': return None
-        return getint(i)
+        return self.tk.getint(i)
     def insert(self, index, *elements):
         """Insert ELEMENTS at INDEX."""
         self.tk.call((self._w, 'insert', index) + elements)
     def nearest(self, y):
         """Get index of item which is nearest to y coordinate Y."""
-        return getint(self.tk.call(
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call(
             self._w, 'nearest', y))
     def scan_mark(self, x, y):
         """Remember the current X, Y coordinates."""
@@ -2670,7 +2682,7 @@ class Listbox(Widget, XView, YView):
     select_set = selection_set
     def size(self):
         """Return the number of elements in the listbox."""
-        return getint(self.tk.call(self._w, 'size'))
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call(self._w, 'size'))
     def itemcget(self, index, option):
         """Return the resource value for an ITEM and an OPTION."""
         return self.tk.call(
@@ -2772,7 +2784,7 @@ class Menu(Widget):
         """Return the index of a menu item identified by INDEX."""
         i = self.tk.call(self._w, 'index', index)
         if i == 'none': return None
-        return getint(i)
+        return self.tk.getint(i)
     def invoke(self, index):
         """Invoke a menu item identified by INDEX and execute
         the associated command."""
@@ -2789,10 +2801,10 @@ class Menu(Widget):
     def xposition(self, index): # new in Tk 8.5
         """Return the x-position of the leftmost pixel of the menu item
         at INDEX."""
-        return getint(self.tk.call(self._w, 'xposition', index))
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call(self._w, 'xposition', index))
     def yposition(self, index):
         """Return the y-position of the topmost pixel of the menu item at INDEX."""
-        return getint(self.tk.call(
+        return self.tk.getint(self.tk.call(
             self._w, 'yposition', index))
 
 class Menubutton(Widget):
@@ -2848,9 +2860,9 @@ class Scale(Widget):
         """Get the current value as integer or float."""
         value = self.tk.call(self._w, 'get')
         try:
-            return getint(value)
-        except ValueError:
-            return getdouble(value)
+            return self.tk.getint(value)
+        except (ValueError, TclError):
+            return self.tk.getdouble(value)
     def set(self, value):
         """Set the value to VALUE."""
         self.tk.call(self._w, 'set', value)
@@ -2888,12 +2900,12 @@ class Scrollbar(Widget):
     def delta(self, deltax, deltay):
         """Return the fractional change of the scrollbar setting if it
         would be moved by DELTAX or DELTAY pixels."""
-        return getdouble(
+        return self.tk.getdouble(
             self.tk.call(self._w, 'delta', deltax, deltay))
     def fraction(self, x, y):
         """Return the fractional value which corresponds to a slider
         position of X,Y."""
-        return getdouble(self.tk.call(self._w, 'fraction', x, y))
+        return self.tk.getdouble(self.tk.call(self._w, 'fraction', x, y))
     def identify(self, x, y):
         """Return the element under position X,Y as one of
         "arrow1","slider","arrow2" or ""."""
@@ -3364,14 +3376,14 @@ class Image:
     config = configure
     def height(self):
         """Return the height of the image."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('image', 'height', self.name))
     def type(self):
         """Return the type of the imgage, e.g. "photo" or "bitmap"."""
         return self.tk.call('image', 'type', self.name)
     def width(self):
         """Return the width of the image."""
-        return getint(
+        return self.tk.getint(
             self.tk.call('image', 'width', self.name))
 
 class PhotoImage(Image):
diff --git a/Lib/tkinter/font.py b/Lib/tkinter/font.py
index b96673208be..a04fedf655c 100644
--- a/Lib/tkinter/font.py
+++ b/Lib/tkinter/font.py
@@ -153,7 +153,7 @@ class Font:
         args = (text,)
         if displayof:
             args = ('-displayof', displayof, text)
-        return int(self._call("font", "measure", self.name, *args))
+        return self._root.tk.getint(self._call("font", "measure", self.name, *args))
 
     def metrics(self, *options, **kw):
         """Return font metrics.
@@ -166,13 +166,13 @@ class Font:
             args = ('-displayof', displayof)
         if options:
             args = args + self._get(options)
-            return int(
+            return self._root.tk.getint(
                 self._call("font", "metrics", self.name, *args))
         else:
             res = self._split(self._call("font", "metrics", self.name, *args))
             options = {}
             for i in range(0, len(res), 2):
-                options[res[i][1:]] = int(res[i+1])
+                options[res[i][1:]] = self._root.tk.getint(res[i+1])
             return options
 
 
diff --git a/Lib/tkinter/simpledialog.py b/Lib/tkinter/simpledialog.py
index 45302b4569b..a95f5516c90 100644
--- a/Lib/tkinter/simpledialog.py
+++ b/Lib/tkinter/simpledialog.py
@@ -325,7 +325,7 @@ class _QueryDialog(Dialog):
 class _QueryInteger(_QueryDialog):
     errormessage = "Not an integer."
     def getresult(self):
-        return int(self.entry.get())
+        return self.getint(self.entry.get())
 
 def askinteger(title, prompt, **kw):
     '''get an integer from the user
@@ -344,7 +344,7 @@ def askinteger(title, prompt, **kw):
 class _QueryFloat(_QueryDialog):
     errormessage = "Not a floating point value."
     def getresult(self):
-        return float(self.entry.get())
+        return self.getdouble(self.entry.get())
 
 def askfloat(title, prompt, **kw):
     '''get a float from the user
diff --git a/Lib/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_variables.py b/Lib/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_variables.py
index 4b729431780..abdce969985 100644
--- a/Lib/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_variables.py
+++ b/Lib/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_variables.py
@@ -122,10 +122,10 @@ class TestIntVar(TestBase):
     def test_invalid_value(self):
         v = IntVar(self.root, name="name")
         self.root.globalsetvar("name", "value")
-        with self.assertRaises(ValueError):
+        with self.assertRaises((ValueError, TclError)):
             v.get()
         self.root.globalsetvar("name", "345.0")
-        with self.assertRaises(ValueError):
+        with self.assertRaises((ValueError, TclError)):
             v.get()
 
 
@@ -152,7 +152,7 @@ class TestDoubleVar(TestBase):
     def test_invalid_value(self):
         v = DoubleVar(self.root, name="name")
         self.root.globalsetvar("name", "value")
-        with self.assertRaises(ValueError):
+        with self.assertRaises((ValueError, TclError)):
             v.get()
 
 
diff --git a/Lib/tkinter/test/test_ttk/test_extensions.py b/Lib/tkinter/test/test_ttk/test_extensions.py
index c3af06cddd0..f33945cef9c 100644
--- a/Lib/tkinter/test/test_ttk/test_extensions.py
+++ b/Lib/tkinter/test/test_ttk/test_extensions.py
@@ -70,17 +70,15 @@ class LabeledScaleTest(AbstractTkTest, unittest.TestCase):
         # variable initialization/passing
         passed_expected = (('0', 0), (0, 0), (10, 10),
             (-1, -1), (sys.maxsize + 1, sys.maxsize + 1))
-        if self.wantobjects:
-            passed_expected += ((2.5, 2),)
         for pair in passed_expected:
             x = ttk.LabeledScale(self.root, from_=pair[0])
             self.assertEqual(x.value, pair[1])
             x.destroy()
         x = ttk.LabeledScale(self.root, from_='2.5')
-        self.assertRaises(ValueError, x._variable.get)
+        self.assertRaises((ValueError, tkinter.TclError), x._variable.get)
         x.destroy()
         x = ttk.LabeledScale(self.root, from_=None)
-        self.assertRaises(ValueError, x._variable.get)
+        self.assertRaises((ValueError, tkinter.TclError), x._variable.get)
         x.destroy()
         # variable should have its default value set to the from_ value
         myvar = tkinter.DoubleVar(self.root, value=20)
diff --git a/Misc/NEWS b/Misc/NEWS
index 44fd28d5db4..0b47d8a3248 100644
--- a/Misc/NEWS
+++ b/Misc/NEWS
@@ -30,6 +30,9 @@ Core and Builtins
 Library
 -------
 
+- Issue #23880: Tkinter's getint() and getdouble() now support Tcl_Obj.
+  Tkinter's getdouble() now supports any numbers (in particular int).
+
 - Issue #22619: Added negative limit support in the traceback module.
   Based on patch by Dmitry Kazakov.
 
diff --git a/Modules/_tkinter.c b/Modules/_tkinter.c
index 208ec47092e..b048a489e98 100644
--- a/Modules/_tkinter.c
+++ b/Modules/_tkinter.c
@@ -1934,12 +1934,18 @@ _tkinter_tkapp_getint(TkappObject *self, PyObject *arg)
         return arg;
     }
 
-    if (!PyArg_Parse(arg, "s:getint", &s))
-        return NULL;
-    CHECK_STRING_LENGTH(s);
-    value = Tcl_NewStringObj(s, -1);
-    if (value == NULL)
-        return Tkinter_Error((PyObject *)self);
+    if (PyTclObject_Check(arg)) {
+        value = ((PyTclObject*)arg)->value;
+        Tcl_IncrRefCount(value);
+    }
+    else {
+        if (!PyArg_Parse(arg, "s:getint", &s))
+            return NULL;
+        CHECK_STRING_LENGTH(s);
+        value = Tcl_NewStringObj(s, -1);
+        if (value == NULL)
+            return Tkinter_Error((PyObject *)self);
+    }
     /* Don't use Tcl_GetInt() because it returns ambiguous result for value
        in ranges -2**32..-2**31-1 and 2**31..2**32-1 (on 32-bit platform).
 
@@ -1977,12 +1983,24 @@ _tkinter_tkapp_getdouble(TkappObject *self, PyObject *arg)
         return arg;
     }
 
+    if (PyNumber_Check(arg)) {
+        return PyNumber_Float(arg);
+    }
+
+    if (PyTclObject_Check(arg)) {
+        if (Tcl_GetDoubleFromObj(Tkapp_Interp(self),
+                                 ((PyTclObject*)arg)->value,
+                                 &v) == TCL_ERROR)
+            return Tkinter_Error((PyObject *)self);
+        return PyFloat_FromDouble(v);
+    }
+
     if (!PyArg_Parse(arg, "s:getdouble", &s))
         return NULL;
     CHECK_STRING_LENGTH(s);
     if (Tcl_GetDouble(Tkapp_Interp(self), s, &v) == TCL_ERROR)
         return Tkinter_Error((PyObject *)self);
-    return Py_BuildValue("d", v);
+    return PyFloat_FromDouble(v);
 }
 
 /*[clinic input]